THE DR. KRANGLE INTERVIEW ON LAZAR

In this episode of the Extraordinary Beliefs Podcast, join Corbell as he interviews Engineering Physicist, Dr. Robert Krangle.  Dr. Krangle is an Albuquerque based scientist, who reports to have received his doctorate from MIT in 1973 in semi-conductor physics.  Krangle has been an engineering consultant to Sandia Labs in Albuquerque and Los Alamos since 1980.  He still works at both places from time to time.  He claims at least 50 US patents and is the man who invented the laser range finder that is now used in police traffic radar units.  He has worked on heat-seeking missile technology for the military, and has helped invent the laser micrometer.  Dr. Krangle is a “problem solver”, a “left-field” guy. So here's where it gets interesting… He’s NOT a UFO guy… he’s strictly a scientist who worked at Los Alamos.  And he also happened to go into great detail regarding Bob Lazar, as he remembers “Bob the Nuclear Physicist” from Los Alamos in the 1980’s.  He said, “We all knew Bob committed professional suicide when he told about what he was working on for the military”.  More importantly, Dr. Krangle made it clear that he met Lazar, knew Lazar professionally, and that Lazar was present at security briefings at Los Alamos (not something a janitor would be included in).

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"If you are interested in learning more about my research regarding the Bob Lazar case, and the new witness that I found regarding the Lazar Case, be sure to read the great article from Open Minds Magazine." - Jeremy Kenyon Locker Corbell

 

READ HERE: PHYSICIST CLAIMS BOB LAZAR DID WORK AT LOS ALAMOS

 

1 - WHO ARE YOU ANE WHERE HAVE YOU WORKED?

CORBELL - What's your name and what do you do for a living?

KRANGLE - Dr. Krangle and I'm an engineering physicist. 

CORBELL - In your professional capacity what can you tell me about your history?

KRANGLE - Well my bachelors is from New York Institute of technology, my doctorate is from MIT.

CORBELL - Can you tell me some of the laboratories that you have done contracting work for?

KRANGLE - Pretty much all of them. Air Force Weapons Lab, Sandia labs, several different areas at Sandia … area 5, area 3 ... Los Alamos. I've done work with White Sands. I've been out even as far as California, you know where China Lake is?  You know, Ridgecrest.  I've done some testing out at China lake. One of the things that I do is a company will call and say, we want to do this test project, how do we set up the test? We want to measure X, what equipment do we need and how do we set that up?And that's the gap that I fill.

 

2 - WHAT DID YOU DO AT LOS ALAMOS & WHEN?

CORBELL - What is it that you have done at Los Alamos, what time frames? Whatever you can tell me about that.

I've done contracts at Los Alamos pretty much all through the 80s. I still do contracts with Los Alamos. Not as many as I used to, but I still have some contact up there. But all through the 80s I was doing design project this, or you know a kind of a ancillary engineering. Their engineers have been beating a problem, and sometimes you get too close to the problem where you can't see the forest through the trees, so they bring in people like me as an outside contract to take a fresh look, see what's going on. Though the equipment I may of been working with might've been on some high-security something or another, but an amplifier is an amplifier, a signal generator is a signal generator … what you do with that equipment, that may be classified. But that specific piece of equipment itself is not classified.

 

3 - WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST INTERACTION WITH BOB LAZAR?

CORBELL - One of the reasons why I was introduced to you, was because you're not into this world that I'm investigating that includes, ufology, advanced propulsion systems. But one thing that I was told is that, was that not only did you have some work that you did at Los Alamos, but additionally that you somehow met Bob Lazar. What was your first interaction with LAZAR and where was it?

KRANGLE - Well it wasn't much of an interaction. It was one of these things, you know, meetings ... like security meetings. You know, you have to go to that once every week or every couple of weeks ... and they give you the usual briefing, "Don't talk about what you're doing. Don't talk about what you see." So Lazar, we didn't work together, but you know cafeteria kind of thing ... you know you pass em in some of the "commanders call" if you will ... you know meetings ... you pass em ... so yeah, he was up there.

CORBELL - And about what year was it that you remember seeing him?

KRANGLE - To pin it down, certainly in the 80s. Probably earlier than late 80s.

CORBELL - What's interesting to me is that you're saying, that you would run across Lazar at a security meeting … "Don't talk about this. Don't talk about that" … or in the cafeteria.  Was it your impression that he was a concessions stand salesman, or a janitor?

KRANGLE - He was dressed wrong to be the janitor (laughter).

CORBELL - Okay, so how did you know Bob and in what capacity was he there working from your knowledge? What was he at Los Alamos?

KRANGLE - Well he was a physicist which, I'm a physicist. We kind of recognize each other. You know it's the classic pocket condom with all the proper different color pens (laughter) ... he fit that mold. If nobody would've told me he was a physicist, one look, [you would know] he's a physicist. He's properly dressed in geekdome.

CORBELL - Did people tell you he's a physicist? Was it ever explained to you?

KRANGLE - In some conversations, you know, somebody would be talking about what somebody was doing … and they'd point over ... and that's him over there.

 

4 - BOB LAZAR WAS AT LOS ALAMOS SECURITY BRIEFINGS WITH YOU?

CORBELL - You have a direct individual memory of being in a security briefing at Los Alamos with Bob Lazar?

KRANGLE - Yeah, I remember seeing him.

CORBELL - Why would he be there if he wasn't working in capacity with that was important?

KRANGLE - Yeah, I don't think they bring the janitor in … yeah.

CORBELL - Okay. Because I just want to kind of, demystify that once and for all.

 

5 - WAS BOB LAZAR A PHYSICIST AT LOS ALAMOS?

CORBELL - What was your impression of what Bob was doing at Los Alamos in the 80s?

KRANGLE - Well, at the time I was there, I really didn't know what specifically Bob was doing, we didn't work together, we simply crossed paths … at least in glancing view.  I didn't know what he was up to anymore than he knew what I was up to.

CORBELL - But you did know that he was a physicist?

KRANGLE - Yes.

CORBELL - And that was very clear to you, that he was a physicist at Los Alamos and not again like, the janitor?

KRANGLE - Right. And in conversations with some of my colleagues ... you know again sitting over lunch, we would be talking about something something happening or, who's doing something. It's okay to talk amongst yourselves, your just not allowed to tell your wife or your kids what you're doing.  And somebody would lean over and say that's Bob over there ... he working on something something project.

CORBELL - So did you get any other impressions? You've described him very well, he's kinda got the Hawking's face, he stands out, he's got the pocket protector, he's a physicist working at Los Alamos … Is there anything else that stood out about Bob?

KRANGLE - Yeah one of the fellas was telling me about him building a jet car.

 

6 - BOB LAZAR COMMITTED PROFESSIONAL SUICIDE BY BREAKING THE CODE

CORBELL - It's so fascinating to me to talk with somebody who's not, you know, drank the Kool-Aid ... who doesn't know the whole story, or who's really really into it. And [who] says, "I worked there. I saw Bob." He stood out to you somehow.

KRANGLE - And I understand how Los Alamos would blackball him. He committed professional suicide.

CORBELL - In what way?

KRANGLE - By doing that video that he did, where he was talking about the craft that he had exposure to. He went into quite a little tutorial on how a matter / antimatter engine might work. Which is how they get enough energy to power and energy in that craft to do what they wanted to do. And he broke the code. He broke from the fold. He talked about it. That's it, that's a death sentence.

CORBELL - Why is it a death sentence?

KRANGLE - Within that security community, it's just that mentality that's up there. Of ... "Don't talk about what you do".

CORBELL - By Bob publicly talking about his experience with the work that he did, not at Los Alamos but south of Groom Lake, he was committing sort of …

KRANGLE - Professional suicide.

CORBELL - Professional suicide. Because you get blacklisted for doing that.

KRANGLE - That's right.

 

7 - IT WAS INFORMATION THAT HE REALLY THOUGHT THE WORLD SHOULD KNOW

CORBELL - Did you have any verbal conversation with Bob at any point?

KRANGLE - Yeah.

CORBELL - Can you describe it to me?

KRANGLE - Well, we chatted, it was after obviously he was gone from Los Alamos. Through conversations with peers and colleagues, I knew about Bob being over in the East Mountains [of Albuquerque] and his company United Nuclear. I asked him why did you commit professional suicide. He said it was information that he really thought the world should know.

 

8 - LAZAR IS THE SNOWDEN OF UFOLOGY

CORBELL - I believe Bob. And I have reason to believe Bob. All the evidence has suggested that he's "A", Telling the truth and "B", that people try to smear his name and try to demote his scientific abilities in peoples minds.

KRANGLE - Look at Snowden. Had Snowden not done what he did, he would be the great kid that's doing the intelligence gathering. But he broke from the fold. And Bob is essentially the same thing as Snowden. He broke from the fold. But at least he's managed to keep going, I mean, where do you go from engineering physics at Los Alamos if you can't stay with in your discipline? I mean, what do you do, open up a TV and radio repair shop? Or go deliver pizzas?

CORBELL - You open United Nuclear.

KRANGLE - That's right.

 

9 - I’M NOT READY TO BREAK THE FOLD, BUT BOB LAZAR IS CREDIBLE

KRANGLE - I would like to believe what he worked on. I would like to believe that story. Again, the scientist in me says if I can't touch it, feel it l, sniff it, smell it, weigh it, measure it... come back and do the same thing tomorrow and get the same results.  So, I can't prove or disapprove what he worked on. As far as what he describes, and as far as the theory of how what he describes could work … I think he's spot on. I wish I saw that same something. 

CORBELL - You know, then again too … You in the capacities that you've had to, or decided to work as a subcontractor for a lot of these agencies and businesses in these areas, you too have been shown things that don't necessarily line up with the chronology of our own development of technologies. Is that fair to say?

KRANGLE - That's fair to say but…

CORBELL - We're not gonna say anymore about that?

KRANGLE - Right. Exactly. I'm not gonna break from the fold [laughter]. I'm not ready to commit, at this point, professional suicide.

CORBELL - But there is something that you have experienced, that leads you to lean towards the idea that Lazar...

KRANGLE - Is credible.

CORBELL - Is credible?

KRANGLE - Yeah.

CORBELL INTERVIEW ON C2C + AREA 51

Periodically Corbell joins George Knapp on the famous Coast to Coast AM radio show for an interview and update on his current film projects and investigations.  Enjoy, and become a Coast Insider HERE.

CORBELL / COAST TO COAST / HOST GEORGE KNAPP / JAN 28, 2015

George Knapp welcomed documentary filmmaker, artist, and researcher, Jeremy Corbell, for a discussion on his various film projects which cover topics such as ufological icons John Lear and Bob Lazar, alien implants, and a scientist working with advanced nanotechnology. Corbell traced his interest in Lear back to a fascination with the aviator's controversial and revelatory statements about UFOs in the 1980's. He credited Lear's willingness to be filmed as the veritable starting point for all of his subsequent projects as "it was like a whole world of conspiracy opened up to me." Joining the program in the first hour, Lear recounted his early interest in UFOs and how he originally heard of Area 51 during his pursuit of information surrounding the then-secret SR-71 aircraft.

During the second hour, Corbell revealed how he has found a new witness to the Bob Lazar story: a man named Dr. Robert Krangal, who recalled working alongside the infamous whistleblower at Los Alamos National Lab in the 1980's. According to Corbell, Krangal produced a wealth of documentation that verified his own background and, thus, makes the account of his time at Los Alamos extremely credible. Corbell argued that this testimony strongly refutes the longstanding skeptical stance that, since Lazar's educational background cannot be verified, then he was unlikely to have worked at Los Alamos or Area 51. "On the record, we have him at Los Alamos," Corbell said, "maybe people should start considering the seemingly outlandish and impossible thing that Lazar might be telling you the truth." Gene Huff joined the program during the second hour to reflect on his role in Lazar's story.

In the third hour, Corbell was joined by a man known as 'Patient Seventeen,' who was the final implant extraction patient of the late Dr. Roger Leir. Having filmed Seventeen's surgery and befriending him following the procedure, Corbell recalled being struck by how the death of Leir left the man with no direction as to how to decipher what had been extracted from him. As such, Corbell ultimately sent the object to a lab where it was revealed to contain 35 different alloys and is "absolutely, one hundred percent anomalous." Patient Seventeen noted that it was Corbell's friendship and skill as a filmmaker which allowed him to let his guard down and participate with the film, as he would have otherwise moved on with his life after the surgery, since he has no desire for publicity for his case nor notoriety for being a possible alien implant victim.

During the final hour, Corbell provided an update on his work documenting the research of a nanotechnology expert dubbed 'Nano Man.' He noted that, although his project originally just focused on Nano Man's work involving an advanced propulsion system, the enigmatic scientist confided in him that the motivation for his research came from being shown advanced alien technology. Later, Nano Man showed him a vial of liquid that appeared to be merely water and had been "collected at an abduction site." He claimed that within that substance was a "highly ordered, fabricated nanotechnology that we could not produce here on Earth." After Corbell expressed skepticism about this claim, Nano Man allowed him to have it analyzed by a scientist at NASA, who was astonished to see what seemed to be nano machinery that was far more advanced than anything that can be created by humans today.

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In early 1942, the Westinghouse Corp. commissioned Miller to produce several morale-boosting posters to be displayed inside its buildings. The project was funded by the government as a way to motivate workers.  Miller created the feminist war industry icon that helped motivate a nation.

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CORBELL ON C2C + SECRET TECHNOLOGY

Periodically Corbell joins George Knapp on the famous Coast to Coast AM radio show for an interview and update on his current film projects and investigations.  Enjoy, and become a Coast Insider HERE.

CORBELL / COAST TO COAST / HOST GEORGE KNAPP / JAN 25, 2015

Filmmaker and artist JEREMY CORBELL discussed his research and work with the late Dr. Roger Leir, who removed dozens of alien implants from people. In Corbell's new film, PATIENT SEVENTEEN, he explores the truth behind implants, and interviewed the man whom Leir conducted his last surgery upon. Corbell found 'Patient Seventeen' to be a sincere and honest man who was not looking for the limelight. He described alien abduction experiences that could be connected to the small metallic implant that showed up on X-rays of his leg.

Corbell filmed the implant removal surgery and said the object seemed to be elusive, and was emitting some kind of electromagnetic frequency. It looked like a hard black cylinder, just a little bigger than a grain of rice, and electron microscope lab tests revealed some unusual properties. The object was a complex alloy containing some 36 elements, including some rare earth ones, and according to Corbell's sources it was a manufactured object built to be especially strong. Additionally, the sample had an isotopic zinc ratio that was 2.5% outside of the normal terrestrial ratio for Zinc 64, he revealed.

One of Corbell's sources was a person he referred to as NANO MAN, a nanotechnology expert who does projects for the military, and has developed a 'hyperspace' propulsion system. Nano Man gave him a substance nicknamed 'utility fog' that he suggested came from an off-world or alien source, because it would not be possible to make on Earth. Corbell also talked about the extensive footage he's shot with JOHN LEAR for an upcoming documentary, as well as his interview with 'ANONYMOUS,' an ex-CIA operative who claims, through his military and intelligence career, to have been exposed to realities and technologies of an extraterrestrial nature.

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In honor of the theatrical release of BUNRAKU the film, Corbell unveiled a series of original art pieces inspired by the film.  The work was exhibited at a private pre-primiere exhibition with the cast of BUNRAKU at the Chateau Marmont, Penthouse 64.

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